May 20, 2008

What's the big deal??

Vel Nirtist
When reading the following in a recent Haaretz article I wondered what to be most amazed at.
"Israel finds it hard to explain to the world what is very clear from its point of view - the unacceptable threat posed to Sderot, Ashkelon and other areas. A foreign minister from a European country, who recently visited Israel, asked his hosts how many civilians have died since the Qassam rockets began falling. When he was told that there have been 15 dead in seven years, less than those killed in a large suicide bombing, the minister's response was almost disdainful."

Should it be the stunning cynicism of a visiting European bigwig, to whom mere 15 family tragedies are no big deal, and to be treated with disdain? Should it be the reaction of Israel's Livni, Olmert and Barak, who instead of showing this scum the door, are obligingly engaging in cease-fire talks with Hamas? Should it be their utter betrayal of the most basic rationale for the Jewish state -- established with a goal of allowing the Jews defend themselves, rather than being at the mercy of others for protection? Should it be the lack of emotion in the newspaper article reporting this outrage? Should it be the passivity of the Israelis, who, when being told that killing them is no big deal, feel no outrage? Should it be the naive, unsuspecting innocence of the citizens of the unnamed European country this foreign minister represents -- citizens who, in a case of a terrorist attack, will undoubtedly be told by their government not to worry because, after all, not that many were killed, and to proceed, as before, with accepting the legitimate difference in "cultures"?

So bizarre, one finds little to say. Other than "mind-boggling."

Comments

It also wasn't a big deal when they split the studetenland from Chechoslovakia and gave it Hitler.

Bad on the Israeli host who answered the European diplomat's question with a number. The answer should have been the classical Jewish answer to a question: another question. The answer should have been the question: How many funerals of citizens of your country killed by missiles fired from your neighboring countries would you attend before you would contemplate a military response?

"Mind-biggling" is absolutely correct. It defies belief that anyone, including the unnamed European minister, could overlook the constant pyschological, emotional, and physical strain that living in a community which has had thousands of rockets fired at it over the course of seven years brings to bear on a person.

It also defies belief that the elected government of Israel does not see fit to ensure the protection of those communities.

Rockets are not raining down on Americans or Europeans. They are falling on Israelis. Qassams are not landing on the White House lawn or in Crawford Texas.

They are landing on the homes, schools, and businesses of Sderot, Askelon, and countless other Gaza-Belt communities.

It is mind boggling that Olmert and company look to Bush, and not to their own people, when they are deciding who to please.

As an American I say this: Bush, go home, stay home, and take Condi with you.

When in Sam Hill are Jews going to live up to "Never Again!"?

The world will start taking the killing of Jews as a serious matter when Jews worldwide start kicking arse and taking names. Jews have to function like a cross (oy vey!) between boys in the 'hood and nutty Muslims: mess with me and I'll bust a cap in yer...!

That's what the Arabs understand. That's what the Europeans will respect.

Forget this nonsense about begging for approval from the world body. Jews are Jews. History, for those who care to read it, is rife with Jews being kicked around from one country to another, being slaughtered because someone woke up and thought Jews were the problems, being blamed for everything that can go wrong ... just because they are Jews.

With the global anti-Semitism re-ascendant, it's high time Jews began caressing that UZI and engaging in bad-ass posturing. That will be enough for a pre-emptive strike here in the U.S. where Jews have been beaten and slaughtered just because (do I need to say Yankel Rosenbaum? Do I need to mention that kid who was slaughtered on the Brooklyn Bridge, or the one who got beaten up recently?). Enough of this land for peace nonsense. All it has brought is more dead Jews and Arabs with an Oliver Twist attitude.

Instead of Livni, Olmert and the other jokers looking to make "peace" with the Arabs, they ought to assert this: for every Jew slaughtered in any part of the world, Israel will reclaim 12 yards (one for each tribe) of land ceded in Gaza, West Bank, and Sinai. And do it. After all that land is reclaimed and the people pushed out (hey, Jews have the name, might as well have the game!), start moving on Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq. All of that was once Jewish territory.

Playing Rover clearly isn't working; for, as Machiavelli wrote, it is better to be feared than to be loved. No more of that Jewish self-deprecation. No more shrugs. No more Mr. Nice Guy. Let Israel and Jews be seriously feared.

What will change? The Arabs will be blaming Israel for something that she actually is doing. Nice change. The UN will waffle and do nothing. The Europeans will shut up cuz they can't defend themselves against the Islamic mobs which have been burning their cities every summer, much less the IDF. War will result, for sure, but war is already what Israel has and has had for the past 60 years.

What will change? Not much.

So...if the Israelis were to kill this foreign minister, his country wouldn't object? After all, it's _just_ one person...

Suek, you're being disingenuous. There is a vast difference between murdering a foreign minister and taking aggressive steps to secure the safety of one's citizenry. The proper answer to that foreign minister is quite simply this: we've had enough, and we're going to take do what we have to and the rest of the world be damned!

Ask the Israelis about "it's_just_one person." Another word for it is incremental genocide, which is what the Arabs are engaged in.

Perhaps the European diplomat would like to visit Sderot tomorrow and stand in front of the town waiving a red flag. When the diplomat balks ask him How many does it take? His actions answer the question.

Hello,
I have never heard of this publication before. But if it truly reflects American "thought" then America could be in good hands. Israel is not. "Haaretz" reflects the thinking of too many Israelis, who don't really care what their government is doing.

I have been living in Sderot for 4 weeks now. It has been quiet for about 10 days now. But that means little to the people here. Israel is supposedly now talking with Hamas. This may slow down the qassams, which is what Sderot residents would like - but not at the price of giving away the whole country.

Thank you for your concern about Sderot. It's a nice town as I try to show on my websites. But the problems here will only vanish when the bigger problem - saving Israel as a Jewish country - is resolved.

I welcome anyone to contact me and I am willing to speak before your congregations to get the truth out. It isn't money we want. It's something else. I plan to be in the U.S. in July. Hope to meet someone who cares.

Thank you for allowing me to post a comment here.

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