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May 19, 2008 Obama Tells 75,000 Oregonians Iran is "not a threat" to USNote to Obama: Your mask is slipping. Barack Obama has tried his best to conceal the fact that underneath all the soothing rhetoric about "change" and being a new kind of politican, he is nothing but a 1960's style liberal with some incredibly naive views about American foreign policy. Yesterday in front of 75,000 adoring fans, Obama really let his inner liberal take over and made one of the most outrageously stupid comment of the campaign to date. If the GOP were smart, they would take this comment and run it from now until November. Jennifer Rubin at Commentary:
Echoes of the '60's to be sure. At that time, even the Soviets weren''t considered a threat because they would never start a war due to their losing 20 million in World War II. Of course, it is never brought up that the Soviets were perfectly willing to assist Hitler in starting the war by making a secret pact with the Nazi dictator that carved up Poland and deliniated spheres of influence for the two powers. And we know now that the period from 1983-85, Soviet leaders were actively contemplating a first strike against the United States before our conventional military build up was complete. So it should come as no surprise that Obama - a man whose associations with 1960's radicals is documented and who has immersed himself in liberal dogma his entire adult life - should come out and say something so ridiculous that it is going to cost him considerably at the polls. How many more gaffes like this does the candidate have in him? Let's hope there are several between now and the election. Ed Lasky adds: Going beyond Jennifer Rubin's valuable comments about Barack Obam's benign view of Iran, why are we just hearing these views said so explicitly now? Could it be that Barack Obama, on the cusp of securing the Democratic Party nomination, no longer has to cover his true views? Furthermore, there has been a spate of articles the last week speculating that he feels secure in being able to capture enough of the Jewish vote (whcih is not necessarily pro-Israel) in key states that he feels he can dismiss concerns about Iran and Israel. How does that relate to his early supporters who all but shilled for him regarding his "love for Israel", the steadfastness of his support for the nation? Will he be as dismissive towards them going forward as he has been towards Israel? He seems all but ready to ignore the entire region-including regional allies-whose views towards America may be less than perfect but whose cooperation going forward will depend on their feelings that America will be alert to the threat posed by Iran and form in resisting, if not rolling back, Iranian imperialism run amok. Beyond these concerns, his naivete is remarkable. Pollyanish attitudes are perilous for a President to have; Hope is not a foreign policy. It is a Hallmark Card sentiment and a campaign slogan. Rich Baehr agrees that "this is exactly what is going on- he has won,and is now basking in the love of his partisans on the left, who have won control of the Democratic Party." If so, it will be interesting to see how the press plays this dramatic shift leftward. |
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Mr. Lifson this is not related to this article. I would like to see a few more credentials at the bottom of the more profound articles,
i.e. who is Tom Milstein.
Posted by: M. Lach | May 19, 2008 11:41 AM
"If so, it will be interesting to see how the press plays this dramatic shift leftward."
Imagine the sound of a lone cricket...
Posted by: David Bueche | May 19, 2008 11:50 AM
Those of us from Chicago are definitely not surprised.
You are known by the company that you keep and regretfully, Mr. Obama has a significant collection of friends from the fever swamps of the far left.
The reality is that the MSM is not reporting on these leftwing viewpoints and associations, and unless pressed, likely never will.
I keep on seeing a reiteration of Jimmy Carter, but only worse.
God help us.
Posted by: JJC | May 19, 2008 12:22 PM
Oh, Iran - the great threat! Iran is NO threat to America - remind the class, Mr. Moran, of the countries Iran has invaded and attacked and dropped bombs on. I only HOPE that John McCain has to run on the GREAT THREAT of Iran - we'll file it right next to that other great threat - Iraq...
Posted by: Jeff | May 19, 2008 12:41 PM
Obama- an Antichrist We Can Believe In
Consider his sexual rockstar status among young voters, his ability to continuously lie without impunity, his connections to mob members and terrorist both real and wannabes. His strong and unscrupulous desire for raw power, at any cost, regardless what it does to others, (he became senator simply by disqualifying his opponents). His empty words and changing promises, his desire to be friends with those who wish to destroy us. His wife Michele has expressed her hatred for this country and has publicly announced her husband as the messiah.
The voodoo of this all is that Teflon Obama remains unscathed by all his nefarious connections and thug like history. He is worshiped not only blindly by the mindless masses, but by the fearful media.
I am not very religious, but I think Nostradamus got it right again. What is God going to think of all the lemmings that follow a man of darkness?
Posted by: Peter Carlton | May 19, 2008 12:41 PM
Just last March, Obama told a Jewish group in Chicago that Iran was a serious threat. See Chicago Sun-Times, March 3, 2007
Posted by: Arthur Smith | May 19, 2008 12:47 PM
Perhaps someone would care to ask the families of the 200 Marines killed in Lebanon if they agree with Senator Obama.
In view of the Federal Court ruling that Iran was directly responsible for their deaths, it might appear that prospects for agreement are dim.
Posted by: political hack | May 19, 2008 12:53 PM
I really don't know what has been acheived by the current American foreign policy other than strengthening the hands of the hardliners. If you think Obama is not solution, then get some education on the matter and go back to 1953 and the history of Iran and also how America handled Iran over the past 65 years. Here are some of the comments from some fellow americans. Please DO read them:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/19/opinion/l19friedman.html?ref=opinion
Posted by: Mehr | May 19, 2008 12:53 PM
Yes, If Iran is not a threat(which is not) Then what GOP have to campagin about? Their shamble economic policy or disatrous forign policy?
Posted by: A real Thinker | May 19, 2008 01:02 PM
The MSM is the press agent of Obama. Don't expect to hear much criticism from a press that is nakedly a mouthpiece for the Democrat party.
Posted by: Michael B Babbitt | May 19, 2008 01:04 PM
Cuba is no threat? Well, unless you count their anti-US spy network that is considered one of the best in the world, happy to feed US national security information to our enemies. Venezuela is no threat? Chavez himself is linked to a Colombian terrorist group which threatens our closest ally in that region. He is trying to consolidate Latin American power under himself in order to fight against US interests. Iran is responsible for deaths of Americans in Iraq, destabilization of Lebanon, exacerbation of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, and bombings in Afghanistan and its nuclear ambitions also promise to destabilize the entire Middle East. Obama will negotiate with all three countries, despite their history of not keeping agreements. At the same time, Obama plans to isolate and punish our friends like China and Saudi Arabia. I hope Obama doesn't get the chance to learn his lessons the hard way.
Posted by: Karina | May 19, 2008 02:12 PM
Obama is right... neocon ATB has nothing but fleas to swat at.
Posted by: longwalksinparis.blogspot.com | May 19, 2008 02:28 PM
Barack Obama hit the nail on the head. Sorry, GOP, your fear mongering tactics have been exposed!
Has Iran followed a policy of ignoring the UN for 30 years while they occupy an area that (according to the vast majority of sovereign countries) belongs to the indigenous people?
No.
Does Iran have a record of preemptive war on 6 continents, massive, regionally-destabilizing covert activities, coup d'etats, and an archipelago of concentration camps spread across the globe?
No.
Has Iran done anything that would indicate that it would use a nuclear weapon against a civilian population like the United States did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
No.
The real issue with Iran is that its leaders have shown the temerity to control their own resources, which the corporate globalists and Washington plutocrats claim as their own.
Posted by: Jack | May 19, 2008 02:33 PM
omg! this article is so for the people that still believe the communists will attack us and think that now that USSR is defeated they have to find a new escape goat which they want it to be iran. but the fact is that unless u really want a full force confrontation with iran, then obama is your best bet.
Posted by: persianhero | May 19, 2008 02:34 PM
Just as Carter unleashed Radical Islam, just as Clinton armed China with nuke technology and hardware, Obama will surpass all of these sick Democrat standards and bring "Peace" here on earth. LOL
The last two Democrat Presidents have set the stage for today and the years ahead.
Posted by: Mike | May 19, 2008 02:39 PM
LOL! this is funny.(well not really) i was there folks he was compairing iran to the cold war era u.s.s.r. whom we did talk to and did work with to end a real threat by a country who had real nuclear wepons, and lots of them, that could actually reach our country and possibly blow up the world. unlike iran who doesnt.....yet. (((breath)))
so, was reagan wrong to talk?
Posted by: loverofhope | May 19, 2008 04:02 PM
This man is Carter II, no question about it. Remember Carter so emboldened the terrorists and the Soviets that they held us hostage and increased their influence in the world.
are you ready for Malaise Part Deux?
http://rotstar.blogspot.com/2008/05/obama-post-american-carter-ii.html
DKK
Posted by: LifeTrek | May 19, 2008 04:54 PM
So, we have to choose between the naive, Marxist appeaser and the unstable, warmongering RINO, eh? Well, that's about par for the course, but this is pretty frustrating. Unless the Republicans sober up and reject McCain at the last minute, I'll sit it out again. Sigh.
Posted by: Jim from CT | May 19, 2008 06:15 PM
Wiping Israel off the map? Comparing it to a stinking corpse? Calling it a "one bomb" state? This from a country whcih stones people? This from a country currently arming Shiite militias who are at war with our troops? This from the puppet masters of Hezbollah?
Yeah - they're not a threat. Just a neo-con mirage...
I'm glad BHO has taken us past all that violence and conflict stuff! Maybe the Reverend Wright can officiate the memorial service when these chickens come home to roost...
Posted by: David Bueche | May 19, 2008 06:30 PM
So the liberals are still whining about bombing Japan? Get a history book, we also bombed civilians in Germany because we had a policy to WIN the war. In addition, it was estimated that invading Japan would have cost 1 million allied lives. I am always amazed at the people who second guess history when they were not alive.
"Has Iran done anything that would indicate that it would use a nuclear weapon against a civilian population like the United States did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?" Where have you been hiding? Iran openly threatens to destroy Israel almost daily. Do you honestly think Iran is not threat. In addition, yeah Obama is right in that we could wipe it off the map. The issue is not could we but would we? With Obama and the modern left I doubt we would do anything. Does the 100's of thousands of children with keys around their necks sent in mass waves to invade Iraq show any care for human life?
Obama is a dangerous fool and someone who thinks somehow we can pacify our enemies with empty sweet talk is a fool. You negotiate from strength lest your enemies dictate terms. Like most liberals, I suspect he expects to feed the sharks hoping to get eaten last? The one question no liberal seems to be able to answer me is if they manage to destroy Israel then who will they hate next?
Posted by: DaveT | May 19, 2008 08:05 PM
For Gods sake America,is this know it all what we want for President?
Posted by: Will Becker | May 19, 2008 08:06 PM
For Gods sake America,is this know it all what we want for President?
Posted by: Will Becker | May 19, 2008 08:06 PM
Hey, Reagan talked to the Soviets from a position of strength. Carter did not. The Soviets knew Carter was a fool and pushover. Isn't it odd the Soviets collapsed after we built our military up to massive proportions and placed cruise missiles in Europe despite the whining of the usual leftist suspects?
Why don't you liberal posters read some history?
I wonder who said "trust but verify"? I might also mention the best way to keep the peace is to prepare for war?
Posted by: DaveT | May 19, 2008 08:11 PM
Here's a good one: Obama said 'we can't set our thermostats to 72, can't drive our SUV etc. that we need to wait for the rest of the world .....
He's comparing us to dictatorships!!! Where single families or long running clicks have stolen all the wealth and energy from their own people. Look at Russia, it's ran be band of ex-spy's, look at Cuba - no farmer owns his own land, look at China -- held back for thousands of years by a group of communist. Why don't they let their pawns vote freely!! Rather than hold them in captive living, whata-jerk! Obama wants us to be just like them? But of course the liberal bent is that we should just walk out of Iraq and start using a Bully-Cart like in India where the caste system kills all chance of any success.
Posted by: Dan | May 19, 2008 11:59 PM
RE: Yes, If Iran is not a threat(which is not) Then what GOP have to campagin about? Their shamble economic policy or disatrous forign policy?
Shamble economic policy? How do you explain 25+ years of growth? Liberal policy? Foriegn policy in shambles you say? You read too much of the liberal world press. We are the only country that helps the poor, repressed, starving, war torn and diseased. Open you eyes and see what is really happening. We are the richest, most powerful country in the history of the world. We are not lucky to be here; we earned it. If you think Obama is the answer, read history and learn otherwise.
Posted by: Dave | May 20, 2008 01:07 PM