Still waiting for the outrage on Mexico's (and everyone else's) election meddling

With all the treason-shrieking and media howls about supposed Russian interference in the 2016 election, it was refreshing to hear Fox News host Tucker Carlson pour some cold water onto this fever swamp.  Here was Carlson last night:

Carlson brings some needed perspective to what goes on in international affairs: nations don't have friends or even enemies – just interests.  There is a famous quote from 19th-century U.K. prime minister Lord Palmerston that phrases it well: "England has no eternal friends, England has no perpetual enemies, England has only eternal and perpetual interests."

By contrast, America is the home of one of the most laughed at ideas that goes on in international affairs – and we can still see traces of it in the current Trump-Putin hysteria: Harry Stimson's claim against spying on the grounds that "gentlemen do not read each other's mail."

Nobody disputes the stupidity of that one.

Now we have all this yelling about Russian electoral interference as if it were unique, singular, unusually diabolical, and unprecedented.

Carlson brings up the Mexican election interference (and a lot of meddling that has followed since on the issue of tariffs), and Mexico isn't the only one.

Here is what I wrote about the Mexican case earlier:

While I am no fan of the tariffs, and certainly don't think the leftist, anti-American steelworkers union deserves any succor from Trump, I am even less of a fan of Mexico's politicized tariff moves, targeted at specific voters, punishing those it disagrees with to make them pay – and, by extension, boosting leftists, the same leftist Democrats its own illegals are known to vote for.

Can't you just see them?  Slinking around, poring over trade statistics, looking for the actual addresses of U.S. manufacturers of goods bought in their country, maybe even sending their spies or "diplomats" to these counties to gather intelligence, and then matching these places of manufacture to a database of U.S. counties that voted for President Trump?  That's what they did.

Mexico has done amazing amounts of meddling in our elections, particularly the last one.  It was the only nation that openly advertised to its nationals to come over to its diplomatic consulates (not places U.S. nationals are allowed to go to) and register to vote in U.S. elections, something that in California undoubtedly led to a lot of Mexican nationals voting and the resulting cancelation of Americans' votes, meaning the disenfranchisement of American voters.  That's a foreign policy objective for them.

California, understand, does not check if voters are illegal and on its voter signature form and has slyly changed its "I certify I am a U.S. citizen" to "I certify I am a U.S. resident" to avoid prosecuting illegals for voting.  Mexico knows this well.  With Mexico registering the voters of what is not its own country, but a foreign country, you can bet a lot of illegal voting has come courtesy of the Mexican government.

The Mexicans also had a government-linked entity run ads in their own country urging their nationals to encourage their American relatives (not distinguishing citizen from non-citizen) to vote here in the U.S. – for Democrats, of course.

That's a heckuva a lot of meddling and a lot more than the computer hacks, the piddly Facebook ads, and the uncertainty sown by RT News, which is about the extent of this.

The big, big players, in fact, were, surprise, the U.K. and Australia, America's purported closest allies.

Here I wrote about the mess Australia made on the U.S. election trail:

Now a new investigative report suggests a reason why: turns out Australia had been meddling in our election, in a failed bid to ensure Hillary Clinton's victory.  The Hill reports that Downer had earlier dispensed some $25 million in contributions to the Clinton Foundation back in 2006, leaving Australia in a position to ask for some fancy favors from the Democrats.  It's far from the only instance.  Clarice Feldman notes in an email: "The only documented meddling in the election was by Australians."  She sent links to stories showing that illegal campaign donations went to Bernie Sanders from Australian sources, which resulted in a fine for Sanders, and the Australian Labor Party sent operatives to work against President Trump.  Meddling, indeed.

It's the Australian ruling party, the Liberal Party, that meddled most.  Turns out Alexander Downer, the supposedly untainted, dispassionate outside source that fingered one of President Trump's young advisers in London who had had contacts with Russian sources as a likely national security concern, was anything but dispassionate.  He was in bed with the Clintons all along, shoveling the $25 million in Australian government cash into the Clinton Foundation coffers back in 2006.  Not surprisingly, he's a member of the same Liberal Party as Turnbull, and with the London embassy post an important one for Australia, you can bet they were tight.

One I didn't write about was the U.K., which left a string of circumstantial crumbs – from Christopher Steele's role in creating the phony "pee" dossier about Donald Trump (colluding with Sidney Blumenthal) to other stuff.

Don't think it doesn't go two ways.  Some lefty scholar assembled a list of 81 elections the U.S. has been known to have interfered in.  Several stick out in my mind: first, President Obama openly interfered with a recent election in Israel in a bid to get Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu unseated.  He also is known to have spied, big time, on Israeli diplomatic and government missions.

There was also Russia, 1996, which assured the re-election of Boris Yeltsin, a poor, hammered drunk who was so unfit to run the country that he couldn't even campaign. The alternative was an avowed communist, which would have been a mess, but there you have it, and don't think Putin isn't aware of this.

The U.S. also interfered substantially, via the Soros front groups, in Ukraine, to throw out Viktor Yanukovich, something that rather negates the hands-off attitude of the hand-wringers in the Russia-Trump case.  You can bet that Putin remembers that even more vividly and has decided that two can play that game.

Now let's go back to Australia, where the U.S. intelligence community seems to have done its darnedest to throw out an Australian prime minister, as documented in the Christopher Boyce espionage case of the 1970s, the old Falcon and Snowman story.  Well?  What can we say here?

Electoral interference is the norm, because nations have interests, not friends.  Sorry, neo-Stimsonites.  Carlson had it right.

Image credit: Mapswire, Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License

With all the treason-shrieking and media howls about supposed Russian interference in the 2016 election, it was refreshing to hear Fox News host Tucker Carlson pour some cold water onto this fever swamp.  Here was Carlson last night:

Carlson brings some needed perspective to what goes on in international affairs: nations don't have friends or even enemies – just interests.  There is a famous quote from 19th-century U.K. prime minister Lord Palmerston that phrases it well: "England has no eternal friends, England has no perpetual enemies, England has only eternal and perpetual interests."

By contrast, America is the home of one of the most laughed at ideas that goes on in international affairs – and we can still see traces of it in the current Trump-Putin hysteria: Harry Stimson's claim against spying on the grounds that "gentlemen do not read each other's mail."

Nobody disputes the stupidity of that one.

Now we have all this yelling about Russian electoral interference as if it were unique, singular, unusually diabolical, and unprecedented.

Carlson brings up the Mexican election interference (and a lot of meddling that has followed since on the issue of tariffs), and Mexico isn't the only one.

Here is what I wrote about the Mexican case earlier:

While I am no fan of the tariffs, and certainly don't think the leftist, anti-American steelworkers union deserves any succor from Trump, I am even less of a fan of Mexico's politicized tariff moves, targeted at specific voters, punishing those it disagrees with to make them pay – and, by extension, boosting leftists, the same leftist Democrats its own illegals are known to vote for.

Can't you just see them?  Slinking around, poring over trade statistics, looking for the actual addresses of U.S. manufacturers of goods bought in their country, maybe even sending their spies or "diplomats" to these counties to gather intelligence, and then matching these places of manufacture to a database of U.S. counties that voted for President Trump?  That's what they did.

Mexico has done amazing amounts of meddling in our elections, particularly the last one.  It was the only nation that openly advertised to its nationals to come over to its diplomatic consulates (not places U.S. nationals are allowed to go to) and register to vote in U.S. elections, something that in California undoubtedly led to a lot of Mexican nationals voting and the resulting cancelation of Americans' votes, meaning the disenfranchisement of American voters.  That's a foreign policy objective for them.

California, understand, does not check if voters are illegal and on its voter signature form and has slyly changed its "I certify I am a U.S. citizen" to "I certify I am a U.S. resident" to avoid prosecuting illegals for voting.  Mexico knows this well.  With Mexico registering the voters of what is not its own country, but a foreign country, you can bet a lot of illegal voting has come courtesy of the Mexican government.

The Mexicans also had a government-linked entity run ads in their own country urging their nationals to encourage their American relatives (not distinguishing citizen from non-citizen) to vote here in the U.S. – for Democrats, of course.

That's a heckuva a lot of meddling and a lot more than the computer hacks, the piddly Facebook ads, and the uncertainty sown by RT News, which is about the extent of this.

The big, big players, in fact, were, surprise, the U.K. and Australia, America's purported closest allies.

Here I wrote about the mess Australia made on the U.S. election trail:

Now a new investigative report suggests a reason why: turns out Australia had been meddling in our election, in a failed bid to ensure Hillary Clinton's victory.  The Hill reports that Downer had earlier dispensed some $25 million in contributions to the Clinton Foundation back in 2006, leaving Australia in a position to ask for some fancy favors from the Democrats.  It's far from the only instance.  Clarice Feldman notes in an email: "The only documented meddling in the election was by Australians."  She sent links to stories showing that illegal campaign donations went to Bernie Sanders from Australian sources, which resulted in a fine for Sanders, and the Australian Labor Party sent operatives to work against President Trump.  Meddling, indeed.

It's the Australian ruling party, the Liberal Party, that meddled most.  Turns out Alexander Downer, the supposedly untainted, dispassionate outside source that fingered one of President Trump's young advisers in London who had had contacts with Russian sources as a likely national security concern, was anything but dispassionate.  He was in bed with the Clintons all along, shoveling the $25 million in Australian government cash into the Clinton Foundation coffers back in 2006.  Not surprisingly, he's a member of the same Liberal Party as Turnbull, and with the London embassy post an important one for Australia, you can bet they were tight.

One I didn't write about was the U.K., which left a string of circumstantial crumbs – from Christopher Steele's role in creating the phony "pee" dossier about Donald Trump (colluding with Sidney Blumenthal) to other stuff.

Don't think it doesn't go two ways.  Some lefty scholar assembled a list of 81 elections the U.S. has been known to have interfered in.  Several stick out in my mind: first, President Obama openly interfered with a recent election in Israel in a bid to get Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu unseated.  He also is known to have spied, big time, on Israeli diplomatic and government missions.

There was also Russia, 1996, which assured the re-election of Boris Yeltsin, a poor, hammered drunk who was so unfit to run the country that he couldn't even campaign. The alternative was an avowed communist, which would have been a mess, but there you have it, and don't think Putin isn't aware of this.

The U.S. also interfered substantially, via the Soros front groups, in Ukraine, to throw out Viktor Yanukovich, something that rather negates the hands-off attitude of the hand-wringers in the Russia-Trump case.  You can bet that Putin remembers that even more vividly and has decided that two can play that game.

Now let's go back to Australia, where the U.S. intelligence community seems to have done its darnedest to throw out an Australian prime minister, as documented in the Christopher Boyce espionage case of the 1970s, the old Falcon and Snowman story.  Well?  What can we say here?

Electoral interference is the norm, because nations have interests, not friends.  Sorry, neo-Stimsonites.  Carlson had it right.

Image credit: Mapswire, Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License