'Green jobs' that aren't, but counted as such

All administrations have been known to fudge statistics on occassion for political purposes. But this list of "green jobs" that include "oil lobbyists, bus drivers, garbage men, bicycle shop employees and used-record store clerks..." carries that concept a bit too far.

Here's an exchange between House Oversight Committee chair Darrell Issa and Bureau of Labor Statistics Acting Commissioner Josh Galvin and Assistant Secretary for Employment and Training Jane Oates on how the administration is counting "Green Jobs."

Daily Caller:

REP. ISSA: Does someone who sweeps - does someone who sweeps the floor in a facility that makes solar panels, is that a green job?
MS. OATES: Solar? I'll give that to -
REP. ISSA: To Galvin?
MS. OATES: - if you don't mind.
MR. JOHN GALVIN: We define - we have a two-part definition -
REP. ISSA: We already had the briefing on that. So just answer the question. If you're sweeping the floor in a solar panel production facility, is that a green job?
MR. GALVIN: If you ask me for the number of health care jobs in the United States, I'll give you the employment from the health care industry.
REP. ISSA: Look, Mr. Galvin -
MR. GALVIN: - nurses and doctors -
REP. ISSA: You did not want to come here as a witness. You are not a delighted witness. So let's go through this.
I asked you a question. You know the answer. Would you please answer it.
If you sweep the floor in a solar panel facility, is that a green job?
MR. GALVIN: Yes.
REP. ISSA: Thank you. If you drive a hybrid bus - public transportation - is that a green job?
MR. GALVIN: According to our definition, yes.
REP. ISSA: Thank you. What if you're a college professor teaching classes about environmental studies?
MR. GALVIN: Yes.
REP. ISSA: What about just any school bus driver?
MR. GALVIN: Yes.
REP. ISSA: What about the guy who puts gas in the school bus?
MR. GALVIN: Yes.
REP. ISSA: How about employees at a bicycle shop?
MR. GALVIN: I guess I'm not sure about that.
REP. ISSA: The answer is yes, according to your definition. And you've got a lot of them.
What about a clerk at the bicycle repair shop?
MR. GALVIN: Yes.
REP. ISSA: What about someone who works in an antique dealer?
MR. GALVIN: I'm not sure about that either.
REP. ISSA: The answer is yes. Those are - those are recycled goods. They're antiques; they're used.
What about someone who works at the Salvation Army in their clothing recycling and furniture?
MR. GALVIN: Right. Because they're selling recycled goods.
REP. ISSA: OK. What about somebody who opened a store to sell rare manuscripts?
MR. GALVIN: What industry is that?
REP. ISSA: People sell rare books and manuscripts - but they're rare because they're old so they're used.
MR. GALVIN: OK.
REP. ISSA: What about workers at a consignment shop?
MR. GALVIN: That's a green job.

Obama has claimed that "clean energy industries created 2.7 million jobs and were 'expanding rapidly.'" Maybe if you include housepainters who use green paint, you might get close to that number. Otherwise, just another epic failure of the Obama administration to deliver what he promised.

Hat Tip: Ed Lasky


All administrations have been known to fudge statistics on occassion for political purposes. But this list of "green jobs" that include "oil lobbyists, bus drivers, garbage men, bicycle shop employees and used-record store clerks..." carries that concept a bit too far.

Here's an exchange between House Oversight Committee chair Darrell Issa and Bureau of Labor Statistics Acting Commissioner Josh Galvin and Assistant Secretary for Employment and Training Jane Oates on how the administration is counting "Green Jobs."

Daily Caller:

REP. ISSA: Does someone who sweeps - does someone who sweeps the floor in a facility that makes solar panels, is that a green job?
MS. OATES: Solar? I'll give that to -
REP. ISSA: To Galvin?
MS. OATES: - if you don't mind.
MR. JOHN GALVIN: We define - we have a two-part definition -
REP. ISSA: We already had the briefing on that. So just answer the question. If you're sweeping the floor in a solar panel production facility, is that a green job?
MR. GALVIN: If you ask me for the number of health care jobs in the United States, I'll give you the employment from the health care industry.
REP. ISSA: Look, Mr. Galvin -
MR. GALVIN: - nurses and doctors -
REP. ISSA: You did not want to come here as a witness. You are not a delighted witness. So let's go through this.
I asked you a question. You know the answer. Would you please answer it.
If you sweep the floor in a solar panel facility, is that a green job?
MR. GALVIN: Yes.
REP. ISSA: Thank you. If you drive a hybrid bus - public transportation - is that a green job?
MR. GALVIN: According to our definition, yes.
REP. ISSA: Thank you. What if you're a college professor teaching classes about environmental studies?
MR. GALVIN: Yes.
REP. ISSA: What about just any school bus driver?
MR. GALVIN: Yes.
REP. ISSA: What about the guy who puts gas in the school bus?
MR. GALVIN: Yes.
REP. ISSA: How about employees at a bicycle shop?
MR. GALVIN: I guess I'm not sure about that.
REP. ISSA: The answer is yes, according to your definition. And you've got a lot of them.
What about a clerk at the bicycle repair shop?
MR. GALVIN: Yes.
REP. ISSA: What about someone who works in an antique dealer?
MR. GALVIN: I'm not sure about that either.
REP. ISSA: The answer is yes. Those are - those are recycled goods. They're antiques; they're used.
What about someone who works at the Salvation Army in their clothing recycling and furniture?
MR. GALVIN: Right. Because they're selling recycled goods.
REP. ISSA: OK. What about somebody who opened a store to sell rare manuscripts?
MR. GALVIN: What industry is that?
REP. ISSA: People sell rare books and manuscripts - but they're rare because they're old so they're used.
MR. GALVIN: OK.
REP. ISSA: What about workers at a consignment shop?
MR. GALVIN: That's a green job.

Obama has claimed that "clean energy industries created 2.7 million jobs and were 'expanding rapidly.'" Maybe if you include housepainters who use green paint, you might get close to that number. Otherwise, just another epic failure of the Obama administration to deliver what he promised.

Hat Tip: Ed Lasky


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