Pelosi brags that Obamacare is just the beginning

Byron York writing in The Examiner:

If you have any doubt that the Democratic leadership of the House views passing the current health care reform bill as the beginning, not the end, of the process of creating a national government health care system, just note what Speaker Nancy Pelosi told a group of bloggers on Monday. "My biggest fight has been between those who wanted to do something incremental and those who wanted to do something comprehensive," Pelosi said, according to an account by Washington Post reform advocate Ezra Klein. "We won that fight, and once we kick through this door, there'll be more legislation to follow."But since the current bill is unpopular, and Pelosi at the moment does not have enough Democratic, much less Republican, votes to pass it, the door she will be kicking through is the back door. Pelosi told the bloggers she favors using the "self-executing rule" strategy in which the House would pass the Senate health care bill without going on the record as specifically voting for it. "I like it," Pelosi said of the scheme, "because people don't have to vote on the Senate bill." The strategy of passing the Senate bill while avoiding a direct vote, writes Klein, "is all about plausible deniability for House members who don't want to vote for the Senate bill."

Ed Lasky adds:

This is just not about student loans and health acre. Once these strategies work they will be used by Pelosi-Obama-Reid and their allies to work on every aspect of America they think needs such "reform".

We have not seen anything yet and by the time the rest of America wakes up we will have a nation vastly changed from what it once was and our generation and the next one and the next one will have many debts to pay off. If this strategy works, the Democrats will push through whatever their leaders want.
Welcome to democracy as practiced by this troika.

And Pelosi - who said last week that we have to enact Obamacare to find out what's in it - had this to say about the future:

In a particularly Alice-in-Wonderland moment, Pelosi argued that the debate over health care reform can begin after the bill is passed. "Pelosi said passing the bill would allow Dems to undertake a 'debate' with Republicans over 'what is the balanced role that government should have,'" writes another pro-reform blogger at the Post, Greg Sargent. According to Sargent, Pelosi explained, "We have to take it to the American people, to say, this is the choice that you have. This is the vision that they have for your health and well being, and this is the vision that we have." Again, in Pelosi's scenario, that debate would occur after the bill is passed.

Somewhere in all of this, there has got to be the recognition that Pelosi-Obama-Reid have no faith in the democratic process and prefer debate and voting to occur after their diktats are passed. This, of course, is backwards from the way democracy should be working.

As long as she has her caucus behind her, Pelosi will be able to do just about anything inside and outside the rules.


Byron York writing in The Examiner:

If you have any doubt that the Democratic leadership of the House views passing the current health care reform bill as the beginning, not the end, of the process of creating a national government health care system, just note what Speaker Nancy Pelosi told a group of bloggers on Monday. "My biggest fight has been between those who wanted to do something incremental and those who wanted to do something comprehensive," Pelosi said, according to an account by Washington Post reform advocate Ezra Klein. "We won that fight, and once we kick through this door, there'll be more legislation to follow."

But since the current bill is unpopular, and Pelosi at the moment does not have enough Democratic, much less Republican, votes to pass it, the door she will be kicking through is the back door. Pelosi told the bloggers she favors using the "self-executing rule" strategy in which the House would pass the Senate health care bill without going on the record as specifically voting for it. "I like it," Pelosi said of the scheme, "because people don't have to vote on the Senate bill." The strategy of passing the Senate bill while avoiding a direct vote, writes Klein, "is all about plausible deniability for House members who don't want to vote for the Senate bill."

Ed Lasky adds:

This is just not about student loans and health acre. Once these strategies work they will be used by Pelosi-Obama-Reid and their allies to work on every aspect of America they think needs such "reform".

We have not seen anything yet and by the time the rest of America wakes up we will have a nation vastly changed from what it once was and our generation and the next one and the next one will have many debts to pay off. If this strategy works, the Democrats will push through whatever their leaders want.

Welcome to democracy as practiced by this troika.

And Pelosi - who said last week that we have to enact Obamacare to find out what's in it - had this to say about the future:

In a particularly Alice-in-Wonderland moment, Pelosi argued that the debate over health care reform can begin after the bill is passed. "Pelosi said passing the bill would allow Dems to undertake a 'debate' with Republicans over 'what is the balanced role that government should have,'" writes another pro-reform blogger at the Post, Greg Sargent. According to Sargent, Pelosi explained, "We have to take it to the American people, to say, this is the choice that you have. This is the vision that they have for your health and well being, and this is the vision that we have." Again, in Pelosi's scenario, that debate would occur after the bill is passed.

Somewhere in all of this, there has got to be the recognition that Pelosi-Obama-Reid have no faith in the democratic process and prefer debate and voting to occur after their diktats are passed. This, of course, is backwards from the way democracy should be working.

As long as she has her caucus behind her, Pelosi will be able to do just about anything inside and outside the rules.