Thank a Warmist for third world starvation

Yes, but Dubya's DOE denied that biofuels have impacted food prices. Dubya is a Republican, of course.

I wonder how long it'll take for the main stream media to air this.Will they ever?

Once again, the left has the blood of countless millions on their hands. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Che, Europe, Democratic Party.
Show me the last time a Conservative lined up the masses and shot them or placed them in re-education camps?
The Great Leap Forward? The left is a ideology marked by generations of failure and misery. That is why I both shudder and laugh when I hear Obama say "We are the ones we have been waiting for". Waiting for what Obama? More equally shared misery? More mind control? More dismantling of a economic and political culture that has created the greatest prosperity on Earth? Never is too soon.

It's interesting that none of these consequences were considered when the faddish leap to biofuels took off. Or maybe they were...?

I almost choked on my tortilla chips. The one's that cost $3.29 for 12 oz. The ones that have $0.10 worth of ethanol price inflated corn in them.

Does anyone know how to do math?

@DaveT
You will want to add to your list the millions who died needlessly from mosquito death (malaria) after the banning of DDT.

@lazyfarmer
Somehow, I doubt that the thrust of the World Bank report was to decry rising food prices in the developed world, but rather the disparate impact they have on those in the undeveloped Third World.

Enjoy your chips.

It is most distressful to see any peoples starving but the fact is, it has been happening for generations. I farmed for forty-three years and people were starving when we were plagued with surpluses and farmers could not get a decent price for grain. I might add that happened in most of those forty-three years. Now world food stocks are short and prices are high. Even with the high prices the cost of grain in the over the counter food product is still not that great. It is time that governments look at the distribution problem of getting the food to the needy. Is corruption more of a factor than anyone would care to admit?
Has anyone seen what the cost of farm inputs are doing lately? Everything from fuel to fertilizer to seed to repairs and new machinery has gone through the roof. Farmers will raise whatever is most profitable in any given year.
J Rich, retired ND farmer

Ummm... note to Al Gore - you must have slept through Econ 101. Ya know, the class where they cover that whole supply & demand thing.
Burn food en masse, the supply goes DOWN and whaddya know, prices go UP and poor people starve.
Way to go genius!

Global warm-mongering is indeed a problem. The only solution that I can see is for liberals to stop exhaling poisonous CO2 from their lungs!

Take heart! We have yet to feel the effects of the Midwest flooding.

Take heart! We have yet to feel the effects of the Midwestern flooding.

Yes, indeed, congrats to a job well done. We all know how this is going to play out when the report is released:

President Obama: "This shows the imperative need to implement my Global War on Poverty immediately. We must 'ask' the wealthy to pay their fair share to help feed these people. Um, yes, it is likely that this money will be diverted to the off-shore acounts of Mugabe, etal., but that must not divide us. We can also cut back drastically on energy by patriotically trading our cars for Amtrak passes. Yes We Can. What was that Michelle? Oh, yes, the campaign's over - make that Yes You Will. Less gas used means less ethanol and a lower corn price. But no need for you folks in the Midwest to worry - we'll just up your subsidies to make up the difference. As I have always said, it's change you can believe in; for we have way too many obese people with tax refunds that they do not need using up way too much of the world's energy with their SUV's, their 68 degree air conditioned...."

RE:Geof

I guess you missed my point. The price of corn is only one of many factors in the price of food. In the USA, the price of corn is trivial to the price of grain based food. $0.10 in a package that cost $3.28. How absurd to blame ethanol. Even if the price of corn were to go to $0 the price of food would continue to go up.

The reason people in undeveloped countries starve is because they have nothing. Even if corn sold for $0 they would starve because of the high transportation costs alone. And that doesn't include the total cost. I'll bet even your job has an effect on the price of food. Everybody's does.

And then there is the cost of producing corn, which no one wants to talk about. Priced any fuel lately? Seed, chemicals, repair parts, labor are all up by double digits. Nitrogen is supposed to go up another 50% next year. It costs almost twice as much to grow corn as it did a couple years ago. And this has nothing to do with ethanol.

Politicians know that people don't do the math, don't think this stuff through. So they scapegoat. The author of this article is as guilty as the World Bank in this regard.

Surplus food leads to lower prices worldwide. Using FOOD for fuel is STUPID. We could be making methonal from coal instead of using FOOD for fuel. Carbon Credits take productive lands and turn them into carbon sinks such as non-food producing forests. Imported ethonal, if we go that route, will cause more trouble in the third world by converting food producing acres to Sugar Cane. The land owners will make out because they will make more money but people will starve.

All foods are a commodity based market. The cost of producing a commodity has very little to do with the price. The availability of the commodity has everything to do with the price. More of something means less cost per unit.

Bio-Fuels where food crops, or food producing farm lands are used is criminal. There are plenty of other sources of alternatives. I am for using all the leftover bio-mass from food processing to make ethonal but an efficent process to do this has yet to come on line.

Just remeber if you live in the part of the world that has no food and you read that the rich part of the world is using food for fuel we will be deservedly resented.

The US doesn't need wheat-derived ethanol. It only needs Acts of Congress which would implement my proposals:
http://zbigniewmazurak.wordpress.com
If America had done that in 1974, it wouldn't have experienced the 1979 crisis. If America had done that when I first suggested these proposals, in 2005, then it wouldn't have to wait for oil corporations to obtain oil from the OCS in 2030.

The one proven way to feed the world (increasing plants biomass using the same amount of water by doubling the CO2) is the warmist biggest target.

"Politicians are not born...they are excreted." Cicero
Could all of this be the Marxist Revolutionary forcing of history through contrived shortages? When Big Brother has declared a National Emergency all we little bees in the hive must sacrifice for the collective's well being. (Secular-Progressive 'Christianity' at legislative gunpont.) It keeps the masses off balance and non-threatening to the self-serving schemes of the benevolent overarching Nanny State. Starvation and want for staple necessities are the magic forcing levers of their incremental Malthusian calculus. When the prols are lined up en masse for toilet paper (where all seeing pre-TV camera Kremlin eyes could observe them), they were guarded and monitored by little KGB Putins to keep civil order. They are as cold, sinister and ruthless as researchers observing lab rats. Slow easy doses were the dull witted Stalin's barbaric methodology. He knew this fetid garbage was repulsive to ordinary humans...but it was politically, theoretically, scientifically 100% correct by the Divine Revelations of Blessed St. Karl and must be implemented by ANY means necessary!
We are all very slowly being replaced by the bullet free eugenics of Marxist Scientific Socialist Theories and... one by one... substituted with credulous true believing androids who willingly serve the insatiable needs of their carefully engineered sci-fi global Utopian UN Supersate. Because its the cool thing to do. ('Imagine there's no countries...' Wow man! Just 'Imagine'!)
While America has been developing equal prosperity for all and developing amazing world changing technology... the jealous degenerate mentally ill Eurotrash ubercrat criminals (the same sick morons we wisely declared independence of in 1776)...have been patiently plotting sweet revenge... innovating their 'humane' social sciences to stage a toppling of, and reacquisition of, fat, happy rogue state America's treasury through stealthy protracted subterfuge. A culture war of slow attrition. (A heist.)
After the old Chinese Empire finished the Great Wall to deter enemy invaders...the enemy gained easy entry through the front door by bribing a disgruntled sentry (a computer gaming slacker with a public school education and ADD perhaps?). If they can sell beer and cars using rock music, symbolic imagery, and group identity politics...why not their failed bogus ideological feel good fantasy?
It's all about the infantile hubris of ABSOLUTE POWER. The POTUS can be 'King of the World' as far as the world's sleazoid dopes are concerned. The prophesied socialist bi-racial third world messiah we've all been waiting for has incarnated amongst us! Unto us a child is born! He is here! It's '1984' coming to fruition in all its malevolent contrivance. We're living it right now. I give you the Soros-Gore-DNC-Chicom-UN dot connection. Maximum supreme leaders of their corrupt 21st Century Klingon Empire. Well financed by Uncle George's laundered off-shore drug money, confiscatory taxation of greedy capitalist oil wealth, and global Green investment schemes financed by generous Chi-com bazillions. It's why FARC and Chavez are their guys! Sino-Cuban drilling rigs off Key West anyone? (Just sayin')
There's an old Chinese proverb that says...'Every time the emperor throws a stone...it lands on his foot.' The stone is airborne. Let's hope 'We the People' get lucky again!
United 93! They're in the cockpit! Let's roll America!

@lazyfarmer

As I understand the issue, the problem is not just American maize and the displacement of food for fuel, but rather the world-wide concern that agribusinesses large and small will turn to producing crops for fuel rather than for food because it fetches a higher price. Whether shortages result from diversion of food crops to fuel production or from diversion of farmed acreage from food crops to fuel crops, the result is less available to feed people.

There's no argument that the cost of production has risen and that rises in petro-costs ripple through the entire economic system. And further there's no argument about the starving being starving in large measure because they live where there is a dearth of food produced.

My comment to you was not intended to dispute your claims, only to point out the obvious - to the extent that using acreage (both food and non-food) for fuel instead of food exacerbates the starvation problem in those countries most at risk.

I shudder to think how much public money already has been sunk into the biomass biz boondoggle. When we started down this road, I predicted it would be one of the biggest, most costly mistakes we've made to date. So far, so good.

"The one proven way to feed the world (increasing plants biomass using the same amount of water by doubling the CO2) is the warmist biggest target."

Minnesota has been testing the effect on crop growth of increased CO2 in the atmosphere and increased nitrogen in the soil. As good global warmists, they expected their experiments to yield fewer crops and stunted growth. Instead they got more robust growth and a shorter growing period. They're still trying to figure out where they went wrong.

Occam's Razor tells us: burning food is bad. It's really that simple.

ALL
Just a comment to clarify where Al Gore is going. He has the VP slot, on Obama's ticket firmly in place. Note the latest seers on MSS that his name is appearing almost daily. Add to that his amassing almost 300m buck via the cap and trade hoax he has created, with his hedge funds and associations with George Soros and we have a Enviornmentalist Seat on the Sofa for George, a VP seat for Al and a host of Globalist Staffer.
Folks, this upcoming election is about who gets to divide the USA Gross National Income. The Left has waited for 45 years for this time. Make no mistake, they firmly believe they will achieve the Oval Office. Once there, then it is a slam dunk for there USA Sovietizing. We have only ourselves to blame if we elect this charade.
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