July 17, 2008

Former IDF Rabbi Alleges Hezb'allah Torture

Rick Moran
The former Rabbi for the Israeli army, when receiving the bodies of two fallen Israeli soldiers from Hezb'allah said "[T]he verification process yesterday was very slow, because, if we thought the enemy was cruel to the living and the dead, we were surprised, when we opened the caskets, to discover just how cruel. And I'll leave it at that."

According to officials:

"...the bodies were received in a severely-damaged state which may have lengthened the confirmation of their identities. Former IDF Medical Corps and Chief Military Rabbinate officials have noted the tragic expertise Israel has gathered in years of conflict, but remained shocked by what they saw yesterday at the Rosh HaNikra border crossing."  

Officials also said that they would be able to determine whether the gunshot to one of the soldiers was delivered by Hezb'allah execution style or whether it occurred in a firefight.

The Israeli people are of mixed mind about these kind of swaps. On the one hand, they firmly believe all of their soldiers should be brought home if possible so that they can be buried in Israel. On the other hand, these unequal exchanges always seem to have Hezb'allah getting the better of the deal.

Nevertheless, Israeli political leaders are not likely to stop the practice of trading live prisoners for dead heroes.



Comments

Instead of exchanges let's try reprisals. Hot lead and cold fury are all that is necessary to deal with these vermin. They take two Jews, incinerate two thousand Hezbis. Or three. Or eight. Ramp up, Zion. Ramp downs, unsurprisingly, have reaped only contempt and yet redoubled efforts. How long before this Muslim hero who demonstrated his great courage and skill crushing the head of a four year old girl in front of her mother, will take yet more Jewish blood? Not long, fools. Olmert should be dropped on the nearest Hizbollah facility.

Mr. Moran, I did not read your article. It occured to me that your are preching to the chior?

There are some of us that can't be sickened any more by any bad thing you say about Hezb'allah.

These reports are only sent out to inform, who? Saying Hezb'allah tortures it prisoners is news to

who? Saying the devil is evil informs who? You want to be on the record as condeming

Hezb'allah? Why? Everyone that would dispute any part of your statement has his or her mind

already made up. Trying to help the Jews? The only Jews who don't see the truth, don't see the

truth not matter what you say. Hezb'allah is more sane than the Jews that don't see the truth. It

would be easiser to argue with a person that likes Hezb'allah than someone that sees but will not

accept the truth. What argument can you put forth today that will make them change their mind

and that they have been wrong for the past 20 years?


I am glad you posted your update to this story. We have a saying here(Texas); "Calling a Spade a

Spade." Your update helped me to write this little missive. I hope a long well documented trail of

facts will knock people off their middle ground opinion about Hezb'allah. Everyone has to take a

side. There is no middle ground. There is no position where anyone can try to be even handed.

Perhaps the Israeli Defense Force should continue these out-of-proportion prisoner swaps but even things up a little bit first.

Hezbollah or some other Islamo-Fascist bunch of thugs du jour get 5 dead murderers back for every two dead Israeli soldiers.That's a ratio I think most Israelis could tolerate.

All kidding aside, what incentive is there for an IDF soldier or Israeli policeman to capture these swinish vermin alive if they're only going to be traded back at a later date to commit more murderous terrorism?

This should be a lesson to us, but it won't be. Terrorists who killed Pearl and Berg get the full protection of our Constitution and we get the moral high ground. Whoopie!

If the Israeli trade bought one drop of sympathy from Europe or one once of reason in the Arab world, it might be worth something, but it doesn't.

This country is in big trouble and will tip over the edge if a liberal Obamassiah gets elected. Step one is to defeat Obama, step two is to get rid of these damn Democrats which is transferring our wealth like never before - first to China and now to the Arabs.

What do you expect to keep your home warm this winter; Obama and Gore's hope for new technology?

What we are facing is a nation and an election bought and sold for a handful of DNC backroom Chicago mobsters.

What I'm about to write is more than a little controversial and is the result of more than a little thought. It is not a spur of the moment decision and not one which I make lightly.

I will no longer provide money intended for Isral's use. I will not fund any projects whatsoever - no Israel Bonds, no Federation contributions and no direct charitable contributions.

It is not that I am no longer a strong supporter of Israel, but, rather, that I am such a strong supporter that I can no longer abide its corrupt, cowardly, dastardly leadership--a leadership which I firmly believe, based upon abundant evidence, is leading the Israeli people and the country of Israel into the abyss.

I will fund no more until the present leadership is removed from office.

The desire to bury the dead in Israel is understandable but at what cost? These heroes gave their lives defending their nation. Bringing them home for burial required releasing killers who will kill again. How many more Israelis, civilian and military, will die as a result? Is this what those soldiers gave their lives for?
The remains of the dead don't always come back from a war. Isn't there another way for their families to achieve closure? Celebrate the lives of the fallen. If Israel can't rescue its soldiers after they are kidnapped by terrorists, would it be better for them to be considered casualties of war?
This and similar swaps appear only to weaken Israel and strengthen its enemies. Is it worth it?

I really don't understand this. Hizb'Allah will continue to torture and murder. No more live prisoners in exchange for dead Israelis. An even better idea: I think Mossad should now track down the terrorists and even out the exchange. How about that?

I would hope that were I in the shoes of the families which lost their heroes that I would have the courage to object to the transfer. I recognize the difficulty of the choice, but I must say that the choice made dishonors their fallen.

I should think that it would be more selfless and patiotic to refuse Olmert's "kind" gesture.

I repeat my suggestion cited above.

To Mark Roth --

Since you seem sincerely to wish to support Israel, may I presume to suggest that you might make your contributions to private Israeli groups and organizations that are in the forefront of the struggle to bring down the incumbent faux-government and restore Israel to itself.

Who is the richest man on earth? The man who dies with all his children around him.
Who is the poorest man on earth? The man who just died, because if his body is now thrown to the dogs who will remonstrate, who will help?
It is because of this that it is considered a Great, Great Mitzvah to bury the dead, for in doing so we "Lend to the Lord"; and doing a mitzvah often implies a loss to oneself, of time, money, even dignity.
Olmert had no choice! He himself may not be much of a man, he may even have made Israel look foolish, but he has done a Great Mitzvah--and every Mitzvah has its reward!
The mistake was made in letting Kuntar live, and for that the Justice system in Israel will be held responsible!
He who is merciful to the cruel will end up being cruel to the innocent!

It is clear to all, ecept Olmert and his gang, that Israel is encouraging more kidnapping by their insane exchange policies. As an alternative, Israel should instead expell one Arab neighborhood, living illegally in Jerusalem, for every kidnapped Israeli and name it for the missing Israeli and replace the expelled Arabs with Jews. In this way the terrorists would face a dilemma. The more Jews they kidnap the more land they lose. The Israeli family may not get back their mutilitated family member but they could at least know that something constructive came from their loss. And that would be far more humane than the U.S. having incinerated entire cities of helpless civilians in Germany and Japan during WWII.

That's why Israel should institute the death penalty. Then the thugs couldn't kidnap & trade soldiers for terrorists with "blood on their hands"

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