Dems Find Unity Elusive

I tried to think of Hilary and Obama on the same ticket as coming together and being uniting, but it seems to me that the result of that forced marriage would be an increase in friction, not a reduction.
I don't think there is any way that Obama can win this election, but I'm afraid that John McCain will be just way too nice to win.
Who started this idea that gentlemen can't play hard?

"There is just too much baggage coming with Hillary - including her husband - that it seems almost suicidal for Obama to take on the gigantic egos and raw ambition of both Clintons."
Raw ambition of both Clintons? What about the raw ambition of Obama? Why would it be suicidal considering Hillary has endorsed Obama and things seem to be going well on the fundraising front.

Hillary as v.p.?Not going to happen.To quote Bill "It would always be a threesome and not the good kind."

The problem remains that Hillary comes with high negatives; in that same round of polling, CNN found that Mrs. Clinton's negatives remained about the same as before the primaries (high) among the general electorate. Despite the fact that some of her more irrational supporters remain disgruntled, I don't think Obama needs her. In this race Independants and "soft" Republicans will be key, and Clinton doesn't bring them on board, to the contrary, her presence on the ticket might reenergize the Republican base that still remembers Bill Clinton's moral failings in office and connect Hillary with them. Of course, Hillary also brings all of her and Bill's other baggage with her (the Clinton Library funding, Mark Rich, etc.)

IMO, Obama would be far served bring in someone with practical Military experience like Jim Webb, someone who just might pull in his Red State with him. Or how about a strong pro-gun Democrat like the Governor of Montana?

A voter who deliberately stays home on election day is acting like a spoiled child. All who do should be prepared to button their lip and sit on their hands for four years.
I still don't buy that they will stay home or vote for McCain. Too many are too desperate to win back the White House. They'll show up.
It's a long time between now and election day - plenty of time for wounds to heal and for the feuding to stop. The question is whether or not Bill Clinton can stop sulking. The Democratic Party may be Obama's now but Clinton has more influence than some people realize and could induce more Hillary supporters to come home. He spent his whole second term worrying about his legacy. He doesn't want to go down in history as the man who tore the Democratic Party asunder - permanently.

Having Hillary voters stay home instead of voting for McCain helps the Republicans since those voters while they would vote for McCain would otherwise vote a Democratic ticket -- plus a demoralized Democratic base helps McCain win. The Democrats are favored to make significant gains in both the House and Senate, but if this kind of sentiment prevails into November those gains would be sharply curtailed. It's significant too that the number of Hillary voters that said they would vote for Obama has declined 6 points and the number of those who said they would stay home has risen 11 points. It is still very early but this is very good news.

I really don't understand why people haven't moved past the "too much baggage" argument that was originated by the GOP. Obama could have gotten far more votes with her on the ticket than he would lose to the Repugs offended by her long ago debunked "baggage."

That said, as a Clinton supporter, I can tell you that the anti-DNC rebellion is in its infancy. It's due to a complex set of reasons that I don't care to get into here. In any case, I don't see it improving even with Hillary on the ticket at this point. They've waited too long.

I can't imagine an Obama White House with Bubba roamin the halls and two fiercely opinionated women trying to have their own way.
I expect that administration to implode within a year or two.

"Having Hillary voters stay home instead of voting for McCain helps the Republicans since those voters while they would vote for McCain would otherwise vote a Democratic ticket -- plus a demoralized Democratic base helps McCain win. "
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This presupposes that the Republicans will have a big turn-out, that Independents will overwhelmingly support McCain, and that the "Reagan Democrats" and soft Republicans stick with the GOP. I just don't see it myself, and I don't see how this supposed ground-swell of disappointed Clintonians will significantly alter the outcome. I honestly expect a lot of these apostates to "sober up" before Nov.

Personally I am hoping that rationality will reign in the Electorate's temptation to vote back in the party that screwed up this country so badly. I highly suggest that everyone read Kevin Phillip's, he worked with Nixon, recent book, "Bad Money," for all the gory details on how screwed up our financial system is, and how the Bushies are complicit in its downfall.

I think that you will also find that privately many Conservative insiders are actually hoping for McCain's defeat so that the party is able to reorganize and get back to the Conservative core principles that have been lost in the increasing influence of the Religious Right and the Neo-Con's expensive Military ambition.