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June 04, 2008 Superdelegates can switchAccording to the media, Barack Obama has won the Democratic Presidential nomination (Obama Clinches Nomination; First Black Candidate to Lead a Major Party Ticket). That's only true if you count the so-called superdelegates. Neither Barack Obama (1750) nor Hillary Clinton (1624.5) has won enough elected delegates from the popular vote in the actual primaries and caucuses to hit the delegate number needed (2118) to seal the nomination. That brings us to the one important thing that the major media (but not AT) aren't sharing with the public right now. Obama's nomination is secured only by the promised votes of the Democratic superdelegates -- and they are free to change their pledged support as often as they like, even right up until the time they place their vote at the Democratic convention in August. They are not bound to any candidate in any way, other than by their own word. As Obama has surpassed the 2118 delegate number by virtue of the changing whims of superdelegates once pledged to Hillary Clinton, can't the opposite happen between now and August? That, in a nutshell, is why Hillary Clinton did not concede the race last night. The media did everything possible to throw her out, reporting at various times yesterday that Hillary was going to concede or that Hillary was going to force herself upon Obama as his Vice Presidential pick. The drive-by media is scared stiff that this thing is going to continue and rip apart the Democratic Party -- their party -- and they are doing everything in their power to put a stake through the hearts of the Clintons. It won't work.
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I think that superdelegates will not leave Obama unless there is a "whitey" tape. They may not even leave him if there is a tape. Hillary is not conceding because she wants a VP job.
Posted by: Jane | June 4, 2008 12:36 PM
Don't forget...the Rezko thing is hanging out there. It's conceivable that he could still strike a deal and open up a new can of worms regarding Obama. That has to be part of the Clinton machine's formula.
Posted by: Bluto | June 4, 2008 01:06 PM
Clinton as VP is a non starter. How in the world can Bambi run on the basis of CHANGE with a Clinton on the ticket?
Hillary is holding on to be in position to pick up the pieces when Bambi self destructs.
Posted by: Rob | June 4, 2008 01:16 PM
The media is continuing to do a horrible job of reporting. It's as if everything is at the level of tabloid journalism. As you note in your piece (thanks for it, by the way), the fact is that neither candidate has enough delegates to "clinch the nomination" (per the irresponsible AP headline posted hours before polls closed in the last two Democratic state primaries). Either Senator Clinton needs to concede, OR, it goes to the convention which is the only time and place when superdelegates votes become official. Until then, they are purely symbolic and fluid in that they can change.
That said, I agree with the first poster in that I don't foresee them switching to the Clinton camp. It's a very dye is cast feeling and has been for some time now thanks to many factors including the media, the DNC, a public tantalized by Obama's rhetoric, and errors made by Clinton and her campaign.
Posted by: Rose | June 4, 2008 02:07 PM
The interesting fact about the Democrat's superdelegates, and regular delegates too, is that they can waffle back and forth depending on the bribes and promises being made by both Obama and Clinton all the way till the convention. It is doubtful that Hussien Obama will be able to hold out that long and it is much more probable that queen Hillary will turn enough superdelegates to steal away the nomination from Osama right before the final vote at the convention.
Posted by: Michael Coffel | June 4, 2008 02:33 PM
Clinton hasn't come this far and spent their own money to give up now for this upstart Obama to throw them off their game.
I agree, the Rezko affair and probably some other skeleton from Obama's closet should be out shortly. They are going to get him, the question is only when will it happen? Taking down Obama isn't the problem for the Clintons, the problem is who will be the patsy. Taking Obama down accomplishes nothing if you get blamed for it. So of course, the Repubs will be blamed for the dirty deed which is why it is probably taking so long to get set up just right for us to take the fall for Obama's meltdown. Mark my words!
Posted by: dscott | June 4, 2008 03:57 PM
Well, lets not forget those hundreds of FBI files that went "missing" a few years ago. Remember where they turned up? ;-)
Posted by: R Rice Anderson | June 4, 2008 04:56 PM
He may be a safe bet but Obama hasn't clinched the nomination. If he had, then Dean and company wouldn't be pressuring the remaining unpledged delegates to make a choice. If Obama had secured the nomination, none of those votes would matter. If he had secured the necessary number of votes through the primaries and caucuses (all 57 of them), the super delegates' choices wouldn't matter now.
And what if all the remaining delegates pledged to vote for Obama? It still wouldn't matter because their pledge isn't binding. It's a long way to the convention. Obama has a new campaign ahead.
Posted by: pmk | June 4, 2008 05:15 PM
Dscott,
That's a good analysis. Let the Repubicans "destroy" Obama, and hopefully some superdelegates would change their mind.
But, the problem is the real fight usually starts after the convention in August. Unless the Republicans start hitting Obama badly before the August convention, then your prediction might be true. I doubt it though.
Posted by: Petrovian | June 4, 2008 05:20 PM
Petrovian,
Oh, don't think for a minute that McCain isn't going to engage Obama from now until August. He's already started with challenging Obama to join him in Iraq and some townhall meetings. McCain sees his weakness and is going to score points while Obama is distracted enjoying his victory over Clinton. The danger is Clinton will capitalize using this period to plunge the knife in real deep and peg it on McCain in the heat of the moment.
Posted by: dscott | June 4, 2008 08:53 PM
Hillary doesn't want the vp job. Anyone near that guy is going down.
Posted by: citizenjane | June 4, 2008 11:03 PM
I'm not convinced that Obama will offer a VP slot to Hillary.... She brings a whole lot of baggage to the table (not the least of which is her husband). Many are now wondering how such a "sure thing" last fall has now turned into such a debacle. Can the Obama campaign afford another four months of gaffes, missteps, and finger-wagging? If given a VP slot, would Hillary toe POTUS' line or would her over-arching personality/style create an untenuable schism in the new administration? Webb, Edwards, or even Gore could pull in a lot of former-Clinton supporters and likely a percentage of disenchanted Republicans (especially on Webb's military credentials) without risking either the campaign or the cohesion of a new White House.
Posted by: Storms | June 4, 2008 11:35 PM
Hillary is likely just in the process of polishing her credentials for being calm, stable, mature, dependable, unemotional, lucky, serious, clever, good-natured, self-assured, unflappable, resolute, in-control, comfortable, able to communicate effectively without using a teleprompter, in other words solidly and usefully presidential, while she has known full well, all along, that she will ultimately control Obama's fate. She has even disposed of the fear that her husband will be the real president if she is elected, because she is clearly the one always in control, while ex-president Bill seems to have become just an irrelevant barely-in-control buffoon and probable old drunk.
If all this is true, Obama will not be the Democrat candidate in the end...
While I know Hillary's policies would be a disaster for the country, I have to admire her apparent ability to orchestrate a long term plan and manipulate the country politically and psychologically. Of the national commentators, only Bill O'Reilly has come close to guessing what is probably happening, but even he is not even close to realizing the full extent and depth of Hillary's plan to be president.
Just supposing...
Posted by: Wil Schuemann | June 5, 2008 03:21 AM
Perhaps Hillary's expressed interest in being the VP candidate on a Democrat "dream ticket" is an attempt to scare the Republicans into releasing the rumored "Michelle Obama rant video" earlier than planned--thus destroying Barack Obama and winning Hillary the nomination...
Posted by: PNC | June 5, 2008 07:25 AM
Three hundred superdelegates and a stick of gum will give you something to chew on.
My own feeling is that Obama is going to implode, I just don't know when. If it happens before the convention, Hillary picks up the pieces and is the nominee; if it happens after, Barack is the nominee and McCain is president. If somehow Barack becomes president... Well, he'll be the last black president forever. The first one shouldn't be the worst one.
Posted by: Mouse | June 5, 2008 10:50 AM
BO was silly to let her have MI and FLA. I hate to suggest reading the NYT but the delegate count page is very good. In particular some of the pleged delegates are not so pledged. My guess is the little lady has a last piece of dirt on BO that will pop up a day before the convention. shocked the delegates will switch or abstain. Or maybe not, the sports books have her at 5%, so the race is still on.
http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/delegates/index.html
Posted by: Geo8rge | June 5, 2008 10:54 AM
There's another reason Hillary isn't dropping out just yet -- her campaign's still $20 million-plus in the red. She will help fill that gap with all of the contributions she can get between now and Saturday (or whenever she actually deigns to concede).
Posted by: Ted Sovalis | June 5, 2008 11:50 AM
The unfortunate truth about all this is that there is this sense of "entitlement" that Hillary Clinton (better yet, The Clintons) have all but forced upon the party. As an avid supporter of Barack Obama, I'm appalled that Senator Clinton actually believes that pulling this coy little trick out of her bag will somehow coerce Senator Obama to "give" her what she thinks is rightfully hers. I believe in kindergarten, we called this a sore loser...
Posted by: Nikki Farrow | June 5, 2008 03:32 PM
Isn't this the same media that sent me to bed in 2000 thinking Al Gore was the next President?
Posted by: Joel | June 6, 2008 02:34 PM
Obama is a Marxist. His religion is Marxist. His friends are Marxists. He sought and received the endorsement of the New Marxist Party in Chicago in 1996. Whitey Tape or not, when Americans get a history lesson on Marxism they'll turn their backs on him. If the Democratic Party wants to win the general they'll have to switch back to Clinton. FYI: The "DreamTicket" has no value. Her good name will get dragged through the mud and he still won't win.
Posted by: JB | June 7, 2008 06:57 PM
Superdelegates Congratulations you did this!!!!
I just want you to know that I will NOT vote for a Man who has not the experience as Clinton has, your vote was based on what and how the media has pulled Obama and Shirley not by HIS own political experience. Seated ahead of him with no experience will not make him able to win against McCain.
*As a nation with your help we have allowed ourselves to become led by the media.
*As a nation with your help we were left with little choice for true and honesty
*As a nation we are set behind a man that though seems a good man is not putting the
best interest of his country before personal gain.
*because of your help; Speeches and posturing aside the actual know-how is not present.
*Because of your help; you placed Obama with, not enough knowledge or
understanding for the economy, war, foreign trade and relations, taxes, health
insurance, education, and the myriad of other issues
I have nine children...they will inherit what the next four years bring. I would not put them in harms way in any other aspect of my life...I certainly won't do it in the voting booth.
Because of Pride and Negligence in not thinking this through as your own choice and with not being prompted by others, you have helped make this election very disappointing
You give up on the chance that could have made a difference because of Pride and the want to be in the crowd of glory. (led by the media)
Take a stand and express your support for Hillary Clinton, swallow your pride and change your vote and I will give mine. Obama does not have my vote in this election.
Yes I am one voice and my voice counts as much as yours.
Posted by: michelle | June 11, 2008 01:16 AM