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May 15, 2008 Bush Disses Obama OverseasDemcorats have done it to Bush enough times, I guess turnabout is fair play. Both Al Gore and Jimmy Carter go out of their way when speaking to foreign audiences to harshly criticize Bush for everything from Iraq to climate change. So Obama doesn't have much of a leg to stand on when he gets upset that Bush calls his idea of talking to President Ahmadinejad of Iran "appeasement:"
Not very subtle but someone has to say something about Obama's visions of peacemaking with cutthroats like Ahmadinejad and Assad of Syria. Obama fired back: It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 60th anniversary of Israel's independence to launch a false political attack. It is time to turn the page on eight years of policies that have strengthened Iran and failed to secure America or our ally Israel. Instead of tough talk and no action, we need to do what Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan did and use all elements of American power - including tough, principled, and direct diplomacy - to pressure countries like Iran and Syria. George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the President's extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel. Talking about the "politics of fear" in Israel is incredibly stupid. The Israelis live under the threat of terrorism every day and talking about it in relation to the two major sponsors of terror directed against the Jewish state couldn't be helped - unless Obama thinks Israel deserves what it gets at the hands of Hamas and Hezb'allah. And the Democrats have been politicizing foreign policy since the beginning of the War on Terror - something Obama didn't mention or apologize for. I guess apologies go only one way in Obamaland. Bush was trying to point out the potential danger in Obama's policies. The fact that he doesn't recognize or acknowledge the risks involved in his plan to negotiate with Iran and Syria without preconditions makes him not only naive but incredibly dangerous. |
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I can't add a thing to this post. Obama has frightened me since about 4 weeks into his campaign. God help the U.S. if he is elected President. I can picture Hamas salivating for this outcome right now. Israel deserves our support, as we are the only staunch allies they have left. I wonder how Obama would respond if Mexico and Canada started sponsoring their own Hamas, and U.S. citizens had to deal with terror and death on a daily basis? The American people wouldn't stand for it. Why doesn't he get that?
Posted by: Pam Littleton | May 15, 2008 01:29 PM
Democrat voting Jews should really think long and hard about voting for Obama who wants to have it both ways in dealing with America's enemies: to talk unconditionally but not to send the wrong message. This is not the change we need. He is a very dangerous politician whose only strength is oratory.
Posted by: mbabbitt | May 15, 2008 01:31 PM
Democrat voting Jews should really think long and hard about voting for Obama who wants to have it both ways in dealing with America's enemies: to talk unconditionally but not to send the wrong message. This is not the change we need. He is a very dangerous politician whose only strength is obfuscating, crowd pleasing oratory.
Posted by: mbabbitt | May 15, 2008 01:35 PM
Pressure countries like Iran and Syria? Ajad says publicly and on multiple occasions that he wants to wipe Israel off the map, and that is the solution? Pressure? If Obama gets elected, truly, we all are doomed.
Posted by: ERS | May 15, 2008 01:37 PM
It is amazing, the howls of protest by the Democrats for Bush doing this. They undermine US policy at every turn yet Bush, to late, speaks the truth.
The really sad commentary though is that when Carter or Pelosi go meet with thugs and terrorists the Media and Republicans say nothing. I have to give the left credit for having some survival instincts, even if they are feeding the sharks hoping they will get eaten last.
Posted by: Dave | May 15, 2008 01:39 PM
I agree with Obama when he says President Bush is using the politics of fear. I'M DAMN AFRAID. If we don't stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon it will mean the destruction of Western civilization as we know it. This makes me Islamophobia as well.
Posted by: Michael A. Cuttler | May 15, 2008 01:48 PM
I agree with Obama when he says President Bush is using the politics of fear. I'M DAMN AFRAID. If we don't stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon it will mean the destruction of Western civilization as we know it. This makes me Islamophobia as well.
Posted by: Michael A. Cuttler | May 15, 2008 01:48 PM
A rebuttal of Mr Obama's lies:
1) 'It is time to turn the page on eight years of policies that have strengthened Iran' Strengthened Iran? How? How have sanctions, and the 2 American aircraft carrier groups stationed in the Gulf, have strengthened Iran?
2) 'and failed to secure America' Huh? Since terrorists last attacked America on 9/11, Dubya has liberated two Muslim countries that previously served as AQ's bases, decimated AQ, captured Saddam Hussein (a terrorist who murdered 1 million people) and forced Qaddafi to surrender his WMMs, while not allowing another terrorist attack in America.
3) 'we need to do what Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan did and use all elements of American power - including tough, principled, and direct diplomacy' Nope. When the Paris Peace talks stalled, Nixon did not summon Ho for a chat, he ordered the most intensive bombing operation during the entire Vietnam War (Operation Linebacker II), after which there were few strategic targets in North Vietnam. Reagan has dealt with Qaddafi similarly - he bombed Libya 22 years ago. This is what he said after he did so:
'I've warned that there should be no place on Earth where terrorists could rest, and train, and practice their deadly skills. I've said that we would act with others if possible and alone if necessary.'
Reagan also ordered the USN to fight the Libyan AF (1981, 1989).
4) 'I have never supported engagement with terrorists' Except 4 terrorist-sponsoring states: Iran, Syria, Venezuela (FARC is a wholly owned subsidiary of Venezuela) and North Korea (which is proliferating ballistic missiles and nuclear reactors all around the world).
Posted by: Zbigniew Mazurak | May 15, 2008 01:55 PM
It's past time someone spoke the truth about Obama.
I don't know if we're doomed if he gets elected, but we, and Israel, will certainly be worse off.
Posted by: Constant Brown Jr. | May 15, 2008 02:08 PM
Hey Obama; if the Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Leftist Nutbag "shoe" fits, then WEAR it!
Posted by: Dale in Atlanta | May 15, 2008 02:17 PM
Idealistic rookie senator. Reminds me of Tim Burton's movie - When Mars Attacks. Acting as president, Jack Nicholson asked the Martian's, just before they zapped him - "Can't we all just get along"? Naive just doesn't quite cut it. Insanely ignorant of world history sums up Obama's foreign policy better. Only good thing coming from this would possibly be for Carter. Obama gets elected and Jimmy's definitely got a chance to move up one line on the list of worst presidents ever!
Posted by: Ciscokid | May 15, 2008 02:21 PM
It is about time that GW took off the gloves.
Dana Perino, the Prss Secretary, responded beautifully to Obama's whining. Paraphrased; When someone runs for President they tend to think the world revolves around them. . .
I love that young woman. I wish she had been the face of the White House to the press all along.
Posted by: Bob Gilkison | May 15, 2008 02:36 PM
Has anybody added up Obama's name into numbers? Does his name equal "666"?
Willi Schumacher
Posted by: Willi Schumacher | May 15, 2008 03:03 PM
In countries throughout the Arab world, in Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Libya, Turkey, Indonesia, Chechnya, and on and on leaders of these countries are rubbing their hands in gleeful expectation of the ease with which they will bamboozle poor BHO. Have you heard of the "Peter Principal?. I think we're getting set to see the worst manifestation of this principal the world has even known. History has shown again and again that showing weakness to your enemy does not cause your enemy to swoon with fright. The big question now is, can we undo the damage that will be done by even just four years of a BHO Presidency.
Posted by: Chiefs | May 15, 2008 03:04 PM
"extraordinary politicization of foreign policy" Isn't all foreign policies politicized?
Posted by: james | May 15, 2008 03:05 PM
Obama and the Dems' responded like guilty children. Obama, Carter etal;If the shoe fits.....
Posted by: Thomas W Coughlan | May 15, 2008 03:38 PM
When it comes to Obama, the clothes have no emperor (the suit is empty).
Posted by: Joe Eagleson | May 15, 2008 04:14 PM
Seeing our enemys rooting for Barako should tell us something. They like U.S.presidents who are willing acomplices.
Posted by: Will Becker | May 15, 2008 04:15 PM
Obama claims that Bush knowingly misrepresented his position. Remind me: Is that the old politics or the new politics? I guess it's the new. Becuase Obama's been out on the campaign trail knowingly mispresenting McCain's position on the war, particularly his "100 years" remark. Tell me, Senator Obama, how does it feel when a liar distorts your views? Isn't this the old politics? And isn't Obama just another old-time politician -- just a newer model with a hip new suit? Let's pray our misled youth don't wake up in 2009 with a hopeless change of heart, regretting their naive and arrogant ignorance.
Posted by: Jota B | May 15, 2008 04:58 PM
When I first heard the President's remarks my thoughts went immediately to Carter's visit, not Obama. Although I firmly believe that Obama should take heed of the President's admonition I find his reaction (along with that of Pelosi, Biden, etc.) to be little more than another example of the typical liberal "victimhood" mantra.
Posted by: Sean Bailey | May 15, 2008 05:09 PM
It is sad and stunning how far the dem party has fallen. They longingly invoke the names FDR, HST and JFK never realizing that those ex dem presidents would be ashamed and embarassed to see what has become of what used to be a proud and relevant political party. I am convinced that they would rather see us attacked and humiliated because they could blame it on W.
Posted by: Mike Lyons | May 15, 2008 05:29 PM
A reply:
1) B Hussein Obama is attempting the politics of sadness as a counter to what he claims to be "the politics of fear"; an emotional appeal logical fallacy.
2) What in the world is a "false political attack"? Was Bush attacking BHO? If so, how does BHO know this? Bush did not mention his name. What did Bush say that was false? That BHO responded as he did suggests that the appeasement shoe fits, and BHO feels he must make a denial.
3) What is so tough and action-packed about "tough, principled, and direct diplomacy"? Is it tough because it sounds so tough?
4) What pressure does BHO think he will bring to bear on Iran and Syria; calling them up every couple weeks to remind them how tough BHO is? Is sounding tough frequently what BHO calls "action"?
5) If foreign policy is not politics, then what is politics, what is foreign policy, what is in BHO's head, anything?
6) By definition, one seeks security because one has a fear, like for example, a fear of being robbed, a fear of being murdered, fear for the future of your children (which, according to BHO are a punishment), etc.
Conclusion:
I look forward to B Hussein Obama further opening his mouth.
Posted by: james | May 15, 2008 06:54 PM
Obama's ego must be as big as the whole outdoors. Bush did not mention any names. I wish that he had. I would bet that the names of Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Jimmah Carter, Gov. Richardson, and a few more would have been mentioned - in addition to Obama. Then there could have been a long list of registered Dems not in elected office that regularly make trips to Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, etc. that could be mentioned. Where are Scoop Jackson and Harry Truman when you need them.
Posted by: Caleb | May 15, 2008 08:20 PM
Obama: 'Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists - except, of course, Bill Ayers, and his lovely wife, Bernadine Dorhn.'
Posted by: Joe Weldon | May 15, 2008 09:00 PM
Touchy, isn't he? Where was the political attack? The president spoke of "some people". Where was Obama's name mentioned? They could just as easily have been Europeans or Muslims. Since when is the junior senator from Illinois the president of the United States? He obviously doesn't understand our system of government. Our president represents us abroad. He is ALLOWED to make statements about America while on foreign soil. He is the PRESIDENT. This was a statement about US policy and the reasons behind it, not an attack on Senator Obama. Someone needs to tell the junior senator from the state of Illinois that he is not yet president of these United States.
Speaking of using Israel's anniversary to launch a false political attack: it was Barack Obama who called Israel a constant "sore". Asked if he thought Israel represented a drag on America's reputation overseas, Obama said: "No, no, no. But what I think is that this constant wound, that this constant sore, does infect all of our foreign policy."
Posted by: Pat | May 15, 2008 09:20 PM
B.O. seems to be running more against Pres Bush than against McCain. But then so are all of the dums (sp)?
Posted by: Pete | May 16, 2008 01:47 AM
Sometimes when I'm teaching Sunday school some kids will start talking. Normally my first action is a gentle reminder, "If you are talking, stop." This tends to result in two things; 1) the kids who are talking stop, and 2) a kid who was not talking will indignantly say, "I wasn't talking!" to which i say, "Then I wasn't talking to you, was I?"
So Mr. Obama never suggested that we should negotiate with terrorists? Then Mr. Bush wasn't talking to you, was he? Now sit down, shut up, and stop acting like a seven year old.
Posted by: JAL | May 16, 2008 09:58 AM
Obama's complaint that Bush used "a speech to the Knesset on the 60th anniversary of Israel's independence to launch a false political attack" is quite hypocritical.
Bush was actually moved to make those remarks because the Obama campaign had sent two of its lobbyists, Dennis Ross and Dan Kurtzer, to Jerusalem to solicit Israeli support for the Obama campaign (which ought to be illegal).
Bush was disgusted by Obama's attempt at politicizing Israel's 60th anniversary celebration, and he retaliated in kind.
Posted by: PNC | May 16, 2008 10:51 AM
While the topic of foreign policy is brought up, and since there are a lot of smart people on this site (I'm being serious here), I often wonder why we are not going after those who would work behind our (meaning the one authorized by US Constitution to work with foreign entries) back with the acknowledged enemies of our country. Why are not Carter and the like in jails for treason against this nation? This is what have been bothering me each time I read articles like this. Appreciate the answers!
Posted by: Steven G stubbs (aka SGS) | May 16, 2008 03:31 PM